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Comments listed below have been received as of September 20, 2010. Please scroll down for all
comments.

Dear Traffic Committee Members,

Thank you for the hard work and dedication you've made to address these very important issues. I would like to add another point for consideration, namely the intersection at Tilden and Cushman. Unfortunately, traffic headed west on Tilden comes barreling down the hill at high rates of speed and frequently blows through the stop sign at Cushman.

Since Tilden was resurfaced, the situation has become worse. Not only has the lane shift made the stop sign less visible, but the pavement lettering had been obscured. After numerous and prolonged email discussions with the county/MDOT representatives, they appeared to have realized the concerns and have recently replaced the stop sign on Tilden with a larger version along with the installation of an additional sign on the south side of the road.

Hopefully, this will mitigate some of the near misses though I would encourage you to add this intersection to the list of places for consideration of a round about. It would help to reduce overall speed on Tilden and make the intersection safer.

Thank you, A. Rubinstein
Struttmann Ter.

I have been a resident of Windermere since 1980, have been a past member of the Luxmanor Board and currently serve as Treasurer of the Windermere Board. The growth in traffic has been considerable during this period of time and the street that I feel has been almost totally neglected is Tuckerman Lane from OGR to Westlake. During peak times it can take over five minutes to just exit the communities on either side of Tuckerman and then only if you do it quickly. There are a number of significant blind spots (exiting Arroyo and Whisperwood and of course the speed of the vehicles is generally 10+ MPH above existing limits or worse even at varying speeds that makes it difficult. Will it take someone to be killed before something is done?

Relative to Tilden, I’ve driven down the street on a number of occasions to see how the current configuration works and to be honest, I would not want to use it as a shortcut if going south on OGR or crossing at Nicholson. The road has enough stop signs, speed signs, cars parked, and on Marcliff, speed bumps, that makes the trip slow and uncomfortable. There are sidewalks so that people who are running or even bicyclists can use that path if they are uncomfortable with the lanes set up on the roadway. When you pass Marcliff, it is very open and speed certainly becomes an issue to Old Stage. There are never many people walking on the street and despite some of the comments that I have seen, it is the best that can be done given the space available. Some time restriction signs should be placed on Tilden to keep commuters from using that area of the road. Maybe we should ask the county to move the signs on Luxmanor Road that restrict parking during school hours (don’t think 12 year olds are driving yet). Let’s deal with the issues that are important to the ENTIRE community and not burden the County with individual complaints.

Stephen Miller
Windermere Circle

As a resident on Tilden Lane, I believe that safety issues mentioned in the PDF document (see below) are a direct result of the 30 mph speed limit on Tilden. As many long time residents know, the speed limit used to be 25 mph. Now that it is 30 mph, and based on data generated by traffic committees in the past, many people travel much faster than the 30mph. This fact coupled with the increased cut through traffic prompted the LCA over the past 5 years to develop and adopt a comprehensive long term plan to address safety issues on Tilden. The need to examine traffic in Luxmanor is valid but must be conducted in light of the original plan developed for our community.

The original plan to increase safety by reducing volume and speed of traffic was a many faceted plan. However, only some parts of the plan were actually implemented (parking restrictions, white lines identifying parking areas, bike lane designations in accordance with the 1992 Master Plan). At this point, any evaluation of the effectiveness of these measures is not valid because they are effective only if implemented in conjunction with other planned traffic calming measures. One key element to the plan not yet implemented is to restore the speed limit to 25mph from the current 30mph limit. The other key item not yet achieved is the installation of a permanent speed camera triggered to activate for cars exceeding 30mph when the 25mph limit is implemented.

Ultimately, any and all changes, adjustments, additions, or deletions to traffic calming measures must be based on data. The statement below is pulled from the PDF traffic document published by the LCA’s traffic committee. I have responded throughout the PDF text by setting my comments off using ( ) brackets.

• Review new Tilden Lane configuration bike lane and parking on one side only striping with regard to safety. (What specifically is the safety issue? This needs to be done after all elements of the original traffic plan are implemented.) Many neighbors on Tilden and throughout the community feel the new lane configuration is not safe (Again. Not safe in what respect? More specific data needs to be examined. I have not seen ‘many’ posts on the list serve or on the traffic discussion site in May attesting to safety concerns about the new lane configuration. On the contrary, from my perspective, the new markings have had a dramatic and positive effect on safety for runners and bikers who are sharing the road with autos.) especially with school buses traveling on the side of the road that has no parking since now the leeway is very tight. (The width of the travel lane meets safety standards followed by DOT. They would not install a traffic lane that does not meet their standards.) Eliminating parking from one side is also considered by some to cause traffic to move faster. (What data exists to show that speed has increased with the new lane configuration?) There have been issues with landscaping and delivery trucks still parking on the south side of the street to access houses. (What are the issues? None are named in this post. Trucks have always parked on both sides of the street for short periods of time or in the driveway of the owner’s home. This not a new phenomena.) Concerns over leaf and snow removal have been brought forward. (What are the concerns? None appear in this document.) The new lane configuration forces bike riders riding east and runners running west into that very narrow lane if they are following standard safety practices for their sport. (No one is forced to run or bike anywhere. The white lines simply provide drivers a visual cue to the fact that runners and bikers use this road. That in and of itself is a safety feature that previously never existed. As I runner, I appreciate those visual cues. They allow me to freely move in and out of the "lane" depending on when cars are approaching or when the road is free of traffic. The county has measured the south side bike lane and found it not to be 4' wide. Never-the-less, I would much prefer it to be there than not there at all.) While bikers and runners are using the south side narrow shoulder, traffic is often (What does ‘often’ mean? What data has been collected by the traffic committee to support this assertion?) moving across the yellow line to keep a larger buffer space from them. (However, and I would hope that even if the lane were 4' wide and I was biking/running close to the white line, that drivers might still drift away from me and if needed over the yellow line to make sure they don't hit me.) Community cycling advocates are being consulted for further input as to safety. (Who is being consulted?)

Many of us want a safer neighborhood and I agree that we must periodically evaluate the effect of changes to streets, etc. However, we must keep in mind that implementing only parts of a plan will not achieve the desired results. Until the speed limit is restored to 25mph, the benefits of the other actions can not be accurately evaluated. Implement the 25mph, collect data, and then determine if the overall plan has been effective at slowing down traffic thus providing a safer neighborhood for us all.

Respectfully,

Jonathan Jones
Tilden Lane

EAST JEFFERSON AT MONTROSE ROAD southbound: No signs indicate that 'right turn must turn right' for southbound Executive Boulevard traffic until about ten feet from corner where cars in the right lane suddenly see "Right lane must turn right" and are forced onto Montrose Parkway. Need earlier signs on north side of Montrose Road where East Jefferson hits Montrose at the JCC.

Second: Exit on south side of Giant/Target shopping center on 355/Randolph Road. Need to be THREE exit lanes and ONE entrance lane... just too congested to exit on south onto Randolph.

Ellen Gold
Stephalee Lane

Thank you all for your hard work on this draft document. It is obvious you took many things into consideration and your recommendations are, I feel, excellent. I would ask that you include speed bumps on Wayside Drive from Ralson to Lux Lane, perhaps 2-3, as well as the traffic circle at Lux and Ralston. As was stated in the document, Wayside is a wider road conducive to speeding so the speed bumps, which we all hate, would definitely slow down these speeders. Thanks again for all your efforts.

Bonny Marquardt
Wayside Drive

I would like to thank the committee for all the hard work and thoughtfulness that they put into the traffic discussion points. Well done!

Sheila Wolpert
Rosemont Drive

I will be out of town during the September 15th meeting, and so am sending my thoughts about the Traffic Talking points.

I would like to express my strong opinion that the lane configuration on Tilden Lane should be restored to what we had previously, with a yellow line down the middle of the road and white lines marking off the parking on both sides of the street. I see no need for a bike lane. I have been watching, and very few bikers ride on Tilden. Furthermore, if one bikes down Tilden, returning to Old Georgetown road necessitates riding in the traffic lane anyway, as the lane on the south side of Tilden is too narrow for bikers (or walkers and joggers for that matter). As a long term resident on Tilden Lane, I have found the traffic driving east towards old Georgetown Rd. is not slowed by the current lane configuration. In fact, it is now somewhat frightening to use the south sidewalk next to the traffic whizzing by so closely.

As we are a residential community, we should give the appearance of a residential community and have parking on both sides of the street. This also effectively slows traffic, as the road no longer will look like a highway.

The way the lanes are currently configured, there will be problems with leaf pickup in the spring and fall and snow removal in the winter. It would also be helpful to have parking on both sides of the street to allow service people as well as guests ready parking.

I am in support of reducing the speed limit on Tilden Lane as proposed by the committee.

Thank you for the opportunity to comment.

Marjorie Guroff
6116 Tilden Lane

I for one believe that the 30 MPH speed limit on Tilden Lane is quite adequate. I see no compelling reason to reduce the limit. Further, there are more effective means for dealing with speeding neighbors than reducing the posted speed limit.

Elliott Levine
Old Stage Rd.

Tilden Lane July 19, 2010

Recommendation to return to Wide Outside Lanes for Bicyclists

The current striping on Tilden Lane is unsafe for bicyclists.

1. On the north side, the bicyclist is pushed closer to traffic, unnecessarily so, since there are few parked cars on Tilden. On the south side, the “bike lane” is so narrow that it is difficult to navigate and nowhere for the cyclist to “exit” if there is a problem.

2. The “bike lanes” do not meet American Association of State of Highway Transportation Officials (AASHTO) standards, which is 5’ for the width of a bike lane from the face of a curb or guardrail to the bike lane stripe. AASHTO requires 3' of smooth rideable pavement. The current width of the eastbound lane from the white line to the end of the asphalt is less than three feet. Additional widths are desirable where substantial truck traffic is. (See #3 re busses.)

3. Busses from four schools (Tilden Middle School, WJHS, Luxmanor Elementary, Tilden holding school), in addition to car traffic to/from Green Acres School present a hazardous scenario, for example, an east-bound bus, a westbound car and a cyclist in the eastbound "bike lane." Since vehicles are legally supposed to give cyclists a 3’ buffer, vehicles will have to cross the double line when passing a bicyclist.

4. Substantial piles of leaves are placed in the road for several months in the fall. Leaves on the south side will totally block the “bike lane”.

5. Trash trucks cause the same situation as busses and trash cans block the “bike lanes” on trash days.

Previously we had very wide shoulders that were extremely safe for cyclists and runners. We recommend that we return to the previous, SAFE configuration.

Signed

Marta Vogel
Eliot Applestein
Allen Eisendrath
letter originally sent to the traffic committee

Feedback on Tilden Lane Traffic from Luxmanor Elementary PTA and school staff
September 2010

- New configuration is not safe for walkers, bikers or cars. Significant concern about cars crossing over yellow lines to get around obstacles in road such as walkers, bikers, trash/recycling cans, piled up leaves and branches and other vehicles that are stopped/parked on the side of the road. Concern about the back ups that are now caused going down Tilden Lane, past the 4-way stop at Cushman, because when cars are waiting to turn left into the school lot there is no longer a way for cars to get around them to continue up Tilden Lane towards Old Georgetown Rd. Concern that drivers will get upset and try to race around, go up on curb or hit someone. Parents don't feel safe having their kids walk or ride their bikes on Tilden any more and many don't feel safe themselves.

- Cars that used to be able to park on Tilden are now parking on Roseland and Roseland is not wide enough to handle the parked cars and the traffic. Parents who don't want to drive on Tilden Lane park on Roseland to walk their kids to school and they don't feel safe walking on Roseland because there is no sidewalk for most of it and with cars parked on even one side it is difficult to navigate through the parked cars and traffic. Cars that are traveling up Tilden make turns on to Roseland, even though the signage says it is not allowed, and they are then met with cars coming on Roseland towards Tilden and there is nowhere for the cars or pedestrians to go except for yards and/or driveways.

-Now that the parking on Tilden is gone, the cars visiting the school must park throughout the neighborhood and when it is an all school event, the cars are parked far away on Roseland, Luxmanor Road, Cushman, Danville, and even Huntover.

-When there were cars parked on Tilden it made the cars driving on Tilden go slower. Now, when there are not cars stopped on Tilden to get into the school parking lot, the cars driving up and down Tilden drive by at a faster rate than they did before. They used to slow down especially in front of the school, but they don't do that any more.

The principal also is still concerned about the bump out that was built into the sidewalk last year on the school side of Tilden (that the school was NEVER asked about), but he realizes it won't be changed. He is concerned because the sidewalk is now closer to traffic and with the curb bumping out into the traffic lane, he's worried that cars won't pay attention and will jump it and hit people on the sidewalk.


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Unfortunately, traffic headed west on Tilden comes barreling down the hill at high rates of speed and frequently blows through the stop sign at Cushman. Since Tilden was resurfaced, the situation has become worse. Not only has the lane shift made the stop sign less visible, but the pavement lettering had been obscured. After numerous and prolonged email discussions with the county/MDOT representatives, they appeared to have realized the concerns and have recently replaced the stop sign on Tilden with a larger version along with the installation of an additional sign on the south side of the road. Hopefully, this will mitigate some of the near misses though I would encourage you to add this intersection to the list of places for consideration of a round about. It would help to reduce overall speed on Tilden and make the intersection safer. Thank you, A. Rubinstein Struttmann Ter. I have been a resident of Windermere since 1980, have been a past member of the Luxmanor Board and currently serve as Treasurer of the Windermere Board. The growth in traffic has been considerable during this period of time and the street that I feel has been almost totally neglected is Tuckerman Lane from OGR to Westlake. During peak times it can take over five minutes to just exit the communities on either side of Tuckerman and then only if you do it quickly. There are a number of significant blind spots (exiting Arroyo and Whisperwood and of course the speed of the vehicles is generally 10+ MPH above existing limits or worse even at varying speeds that makes it difficult. Will it take someone to be killed before something is done? Relative to Tilden, I’ve driven down the street on a number of occasions to see how the current configuration works and to be honest, I would not want to use it as a shortcut if going south on OGR or crossing at Nicholson. The road has enough stop signs, speed signs, cars parked, and on Marcliff, speed bumps, that makes the trip slow and uncomfortable. There are sidewalks so that people who are running or even bicyclists can use that path if they are uncomfortable with the lanes set up on the roadway. When you pass Marcliff, it is very open and speed certainly becomes an issue to Old Stage. There are never many people walking on the street and despite some of the comments that I have seen, it is the best that can be done given the space available. Some time restriction signs should be placed on Tilden to keep commuters from using that area of the road. Maybe we should ask the county to move the signs on Luxmanor Road that restrict parking during school hours (don’t think 12 year olds are driving yet). Let’s deal with the issues that are important to the ENTIRE community and not burden the County with individual complaints. Stephen Miller Windermere Circle As a resident on Tilden Lane, I believe that safety issues mentioned in the PDF document (see below) are a direct result of the 30 mph speed limit on Tilden. As many long time residents know, the speed limit used to be 25 mph. Now that it is 30 mph, and based on data generated by traffic committees in the past, many people travel much faster than the 30mph. This fact coupled with the increased cut through traffic prompted the LCA over the past 5 years to develop and adopt a comprehensive long term plan to address safety issues on Tilden. The need to examine traffic in Luxmanor is valid but must be conducted in light of the original plan developed for our community. The original plan to increase safety by reducing volume and speed of traffic was a many faceted plan. However, only some parts of the plan were actually implemented (parking restrictions, white lines identifying parking areas, bike lane designations in accordance with the 1992 Master Plan). At this point, any evaluation of the effectiveness of these measures is not valid because they are effective only if implemented in conjunction with other planned traffic calming measures. One key element to the plan not yet implemented is to restore the speed limit to 25mph from the current 30mph limit. The other key item not yet achieved is the installation of a permanent speed camera triggered to activate for cars exceeding 30mph when the 25mph limit is implemented. Ultimately, any and all changes, adjustments, additions, or deletions to traffic calming measures must be based on data. The statement below is pulled from the PDF traffic document published by the LCA’s traffic committee. I have responded throughout the PDF text by setting my comments off using ( ) brackets. • Review new Tilden Lane configuration bike lane and parking on one side only striping with regard to safety. (What specifically is the safety issue? This needs to be done after all elements of the original traffic plan are implemented.) Many neighbors on Tilden and throughout the community feel the new lane configuration is not safe (Again. Not safe in what respect? More specific data needs to be examined. I have not seen ‘many’ posts on the list serve or on the traffic discussion site in May attesting to safety concerns about the new lane configuration. On the contrary, from my perspective, the new markings have had a dramatic and positive effect on safety for runners and bikers who are sharing the road with autos.) especially with school buses traveling on the side of the road that has no parking since now the leeway is very tight. (The width of the travel lane meets safety standards followed by DOT. They would not install a traffic lane that does not meet their standards.) Eliminating parking from one side is also considered by some to cause traffic to move faster. (What data exists to show that speed has increased with the new lane configuration?) There have been issues with landscaping and delivery trucks still parking on the south side of the street to access houses. (What are the issues? None are named in this post. Trucks have always parked on both sides of the street for short periods of time or in the driveway of the owner’s home. This not a new phenomena.) Concerns over leaf and snow removal have been brought forward. (What are the concerns? None appear in this document.) The new lane configuration forces bike riders riding east and runners running west into that very narrow lane if they are following standard safety practices for their sport. (No one is forced to run or bike anywhere. The white lines simply provide drivers a visual cue to the fact that runners and bikers use this road. That in and of itself is a safety feature that previously never existed. As I runner, I appreciate those visual cues. They allow me to freely move in and out of the "lane" depending on when cars are approaching or when the road is free of traffic. The county has measured the south side bike lane and found it not to be 4' wide. Never-the-less, I would much prefer it to be there than not there at all.) While bikers and runners are using the south side narrow shoulder, traffic is often (What does ‘often’ mean? What data has been collected by the traffic committee to support this assertion?) moving across the yellow line to keep a larger buffer space from them. (However, and I would hope that even if the lane were 4' wide and I was biking/running close to the white line, that drivers might still drift away from me and if needed over the yellow line to make sure they don't hit me.) Community cycling advocates are being consulted for further input as to safety. (Who is being consulted?) Many of us want a safer neighborhood and I agree that we must periodically evaluate the effect of changes to streets, etc. However, we must keep in mind that implementing only parts of a plan will not achieve the desired results. Until the speed limit is restored to 25mph, the benefits of the other actions can not be accurately evaluated. Implement the 25mph, collect data, and then determine if the overall plan has been effective at slowing down traffic thus providing a safer neighborhood for us all. Respectfully, Jonathan Jones Tilden Lane EAST JEFFERSON AT MONTROSE ROAD southbound: No signs indicate that 'right turn must turn right' for southbound Executive Boulevard traffic until about ten feet from corner where cars in the right lane suddenly see "Right lane must turn right" and are forced onto Montrose Parkway. Need earlier signs on north side of Montrose Road where East Jefferson hits Montrose at the JCC. Second: Exit on south side of Giant/Target shopping center on 355/Randolph Road. Need to be THREE exit lanes and ONE entrance lane... just too congested to exit on south onto Randolph. Ellen Gold Stephalee Lane Thank you all for your hard work on this draft document. It is obvious you took many things into consideration and your recommendations are, I feel, excellent. I would ask that you include speed bumps on Wayside Drive from Ralson to Lux Lane, perhaps 2-3, as well as the traffic circle at Lux and Ralston. As was stated in the document, Wayside is a wider road conducive to speeding so the speed bumps, which we all hate, would definitely slow down these speeders. Thanks again for all your efforts. Bonny Marquardt Wayside Drive I would like to thank the committee for all the hard work and thoughtfulness that they put into the traffic discussion points. Well done! Sheila Wolpert Rosemont Drive I will be out of town during the September 15th meeting, and so am sending my thoughts about the Traffic Talking points. I would like to express my strong opinion that the lane configuration on Tilden Lane should be restored to what we had previously, with a yellow line down the middle of the road and white lines marking off the parking on both sides of the street. I see no need for a bike lane. I have been watching, and very few bikers ride on Tilden. Furthermore, if one bikes down Tilden, returning to Old Georgetown road necessitates riding in the traffic lane anyway, as the lane on the south side of Tilden is too narrow for bikers (or walkers and joggers for that matter). As a long term resident on Tilden Lane, I have found the traffic driving east towards old Georgetown Rd. is not slowed by the current lane configuration. In fact, it is now somewhat frightening to use the south sidewalk next to the traffic whizzing by so closely. As we are a residential community, we should give the appearance of a residential community and have parking on both sides of the street. This also effectively slows traffic, as the road no longer will look like a highway. The way the lanes are currently configured, there will be problems with leaf pickup in the spring and fall and snow removal in the winter. It would also be helpful to have parking on both sides of the street to allow service people as well as guests ready parking. I am in support of reducing the speed limit on Tilden Lane as proposed by the committee. Thank you for the opportunity to comment. Marjorie Guroff 6116 Tilden Lane I for one believe that the 30 MPH speed limit on Tilden Lane is quite adequate. I see no compelling reason to reduce the limit. Further, there are more effective means for dealing with speeding neighbors than reducing the posted speed limit. Elliott Levine Old Stage Rd. Tilden Lane July 19, 2010 Recommendation to return to Wide Outside Lanes for Bicyclists The current striping on Tilden Lane is unsafe for bicyclists. 1. On the north side, the bicyclist is pushed closer to traffic, unnecessarily so, since there are few parked cars on Tilden. On the south side, the “bike lane” is so narrow that it is difficult to navigate and nowhere for the cyclist to “exit” if there is a problem. 2. The “bike lanes” do not meet American Association of State of Highway Transportation Officials (AASHTO) standards, which is 5’ for the width of a bike lane from the face of a curb or guardrail to the bike lane stripe. AASHTO requires 3' of smooth rideable pavement. The current width of the eastbound lane from the white line to the end of the asphalt is less than three feet. Additional widths are desirable where substantial truck traffic is. (See #3 re busses.) 3. Busses from four schools (Tilden Middle School, WJHS, Luxmanor Elementary, Tilden holding school), in addition to car traffic to/from Green Acres School present a hazardous scenario, for example, an east-bound bus, a westbound car and a cyclist in the eastbound "bike lane." Since vehicles are legally supposed to give cyclists a 3’ buffer, vehicles will have to cross the double line when passing a bicyclist. 4. Substantial piles of leaves are placed in the road for several months in the fall. Leaves on the south side will totally block the “bike lane”. 5. Trash trucks cause the same situation as busses and trash cans block the “bike lanes” on trash days. Previously we had very wide shoulders that were extremely safe for cyclists and runners. We recommend that we return to the previous, SAFE configuration. Signed Marta Vogel Eliot Applestein Allen Eisendrath letter originally sent to the traffic committee Feedback on Tilden Lane Traffic from Luxmanor Elementary PTA and school staff September 2010 - New configuration is not safe for walkers, bikers or cars. Significant concern about cars crossing over yellow lines to get around obstacles in road such as walkers, bikers, trash/recycling cans, piled up leaves and branches and other vehicles that are stopped/parked on the side of the road. Concern about the back ups that are now caused going down Tilden Lane, past the 4-way stop at Cushman, because when cars are waiting to turn left into the school lot there is no longer a way for cars to get around them to continue up Tilden Lane towards Old Georgetown Rd. Concern that drivers will get upset and try to race around, go up on curb or hit someone. Parents don't feel safe having their kids walk or ride their bikes on Tilden any more and many don't feel safe themselves. - Cars that used to be able to park on Tilden are now parking on Roseland and Roseland is not wide enough to handle the parked cars and the traffic. Parents who don't want to drive on Tilden Lane park on Roseland to walk their kids to school and they don't feel safe walking on Roseland because there is no sidewalk for most of it and with cars parked on even one side it is difficult to navigate through the parked cars and traffic. Cars that are traveling up Tilden make turns on to Roseland, even though the signage says it is not allowed, and they are then met with cars coming on Roseland towards Tilden and there is nowhere for the cars or pedestrians to go except for yards and/or driveways. -Now that the parking on Tilden is gone, the cars visiting the school must park throughout the neighborhood and when it is an all school event, the cars are parked far away on Roseland, Luxmanor Road, Cushman, Danville, and even Huntover. -When there were cars parked on Tilden it made the cars driving on Tilden go slower. Now, when there are not cars stopped on Tilden to get into the school parking lot, the cars driving up and down Tilden drive by at a faster rate than they did before. They used to slow down especially in front of the school, but they don't do that any more. The principal also is still concerned about the bump out that was built into the sidewalk last year on the school side of Tilden (that the school was NEVER asked about), but he realizes it won't be changed. He is concerned because the sidewalk is now closer to traffic and with the curb bumping out into the traffic lane, he's worried that cars won't pay attention and will jump it and hit people on the sidewalk.